Interview: CSSA Magazine
Volume 16 - 3 September 2003

Am/Can Ch Rowanglen Sir Lancelot

Please enjoy an interview with ...

Hanna Hadden of Rowanglen Shelties
(Rowanglen Perm. Reg'd since 1977)
Interviewed by Katie Groff

How many years have you been involved in shelties? What first drew you to the breed?

I obtained my first sheltie in 1969 from the late Laura Getty of Quarrybrae Kennels. Quarrybrae Little Jean 2nd, "Jeannie", was pointed, but because of my lack of experience, never finished as a champion. However, she became the champion of my heart. She just crept into my spirit and instilled a love of the breed that can never be erased. Her pedigree went back to Page's Hill. Several of my later conformation champions and obedience title holders find her in their pedigrees.

Where did you acquire your initial breeding stock from?

I obtained my first show/breeding stock in 1977 from Carol Watt of Delamantha. Carol said I wouldn't know what a good dog was until I lived with one. She leased me a BIS/BISS Am/Can Ch Delamantha's Desiderata daughter, Delamantha's Dear Born, for a brief time. This was a special honor because I don't know of anyone else who ever had a daughter of this famous bitch. What an entrustment that was !

This lease produced my very own foundation bitch, Ch. Rowanglen's Dearest Welcome CD ROMC, "Dusty", who was an inbred "Desiderata" granddaughter. This made a very strong tail female line. Everything I have today goes back to this bitch. Most people start their breeding programs with the idea that the next generation must be made better than what they've got. I was faced with the challenge of keeping and holding onto what I had received.

Describe your kennel set up.

The "dog room"
Inside: We have 2 main dog areas in the house. One is a basement room with a window which is well lit and finished with washable flooring, running water, and a tub. It is warm in the winter and cool in the summer. This is where the crates are and where the dogs stay when we are out. When we are home, they are house dogs and share most of our living space with us.

The second main dog area is the solarium which is next to our kitchen. This is where visiting bitches and /or puppies stay. Here they can also get time out of the crate but can still be contained under supervision.

The inner yard with dog runs and main garden area. Dog area is very private behind the fence.
Outside: The solarium opens to a large patio area surrounded by a 6 foot fence. Off to one side are 3 runs: one for my own dogs, one for visitors or puppies, and a third for rotational purposes. We disinfect our runs daily, so we always need an extra run to alternate with. This area is again contained by a fully fenced main garden area where the dogs can have a good run to exercise. Escape is virtually impossible. We are fortunate to have several mature trees on our lot, so there is plenty of shade.

How many dogs do you have at any given time ?

My breeding program has survived under all the impediments imposed by an urban mega city. It has not been easy with the number restrictions. I have been fairly faithful to stay within our 3 dog limit, but occasionally have an overflow because of puppies or seniors. This is where co-operation through co-ownerships have helped me maintain my breeding program.

How many litters do you have a year?

I have about one or two litters a year. The pups are born downstairs in a finished basement room because it is one of the warmest rooms in the house. They stay there until their eyes are open. Then the pups are moved to the main floor solarium which is attached to the kitchen. Mine is an open space concept house, so the pups get a lot of exposure to kitchen noises and visitors who always enter through the solarium door.

What lines are you involved with in your breeding program? What qualities did the dogs possess who drew you in that direction?

My line basically goes back to "Ch Halstor's Peter Pumpkin ROM" and some English breeding that is behind the Delamantha component of my program. Ch Rowanglen's Dearest Welcome CD ROMC, "Dusty", was my first champion and became the foundation of the Rowanglen line. In Dusty I had the strength of an illustrious ancestry and a promising future. Her pedigree tripled the qualities of her grandmother BIS/BISS Am/Can Ch Delamantha's Desiderata (a "Peter" daughter), whom I idealized as my living standard. Dusty also excelled as a producer and gave me 6 champion offspring. Rowanglen stock has since these beginnings produced more ROMC, BIS, BISS BPIS and HIT offspring both for myself and for others.

BIS/BISS Am/Can Ch Delamantha's Desiderata "Sheba"
I first met "Sheba" when she was being campaigned by her breeder, Carol Watt. At that time, I was still a novice and struggling with my own dogs. When I laid eyes on Sheba for the first time, I instinctively recognized a truly great dog. The way she posed and the way she moved indicated to me that here was a special sheltie as close to the breed standard as was possible. Carol and Sheba were a perfect team. I was delighted that Sheba had a son, Ch. Delamantha's Daybreak (ex Ch. Calcurt Luke) to whom I could breed my beloved Jeannie. Carol became my mentor and friend who gave me direction for a breeding program. Sheba became the visible standard against which I measure all my dogs to this day. "Sheba", Am/Can Ch. Delamantha's Desiderata, had superior structure with all the hard-to-get qualities that our breed generally lacks. She had an exceptional front assembly partnered with an exceptional rear assembly. The whole picture she portrayed was one of balance and elegance, and her far reaching movement and drive proved the correctness of her structure.

By the early 80's Carol decided to leave shelties to pursue her studies and interests in Buddhism. I have bred independently for the last 20 years and strove to maintain the legacy that Carol had entrusted me. To the best of my knowledge no one else was pursuing this old line. This was partly because of geography of where they lived, and partly because Delamantha lines were becoming extinct. Those who had similar roots to mine were either not breeding anymore or they were diluting the pedigrees by focusing more in other directions. They have their own success stories. I don't think anyone was breeding as intensely as myself to maintain the "Desiderata" heritage.

It was quite an honour to have Carol restart her line a few years ago with my Rowanglen stock that had evolved all those years in her absence.

For the most part I established my line by some heavy linebreeding on this heritage by breeding various descendents from my foundation. When I needed to I would breed to other Peter lines but always came back to maintain and enhance the very strong bitch line that I had. One fortunate breeding I did was to BIS/BPIS Am/Ch Laureate Laredo ROMC who set the Peter look. His grandson, Am/Can Ch Rowanglen Sir Lancelot, pays tribute to all his famous ancestors. The other fortunate breeding I did was to BIS/BISS Can/Aus/Am Ch Enclave Jade Mist Tapestry. He lives on through his granddaughter/Lance daughter, BPIG Rowanglen's Skylark who is now growing a new coat for the shows.

As a breeder which virtues do you hold most sacred and which faults are the most irritating? How have your goals for your breeding program changed over the years? What goals have remained the same ?

I cannot live with a dog that does not have a good front. That area is so hard to get that there simply is no room for compromise. My goals have always been to breed for hard-to-get qualities. These include those hard-to-get front assemblies, hard-to-get correct spring of rib and depth of body, sound rear ends with short hocks and sloped croups, a rarity in the breed today. I focused my sights on the sheltie, BIS BISS Am/Can Ch. Delamantha's Desiderata, that I considered to be my living visible standard. I wanted to breed other dogs, like her, with hard-to-get qualities and be proud to offer them to the breed. Now, generations later, I am very proud of the front alignments and excellent movement that are very predictable in my dogs. Many of my dogs have close to 40 degree shoulders.

Ch Rowanglen's Enchantress - 42° shoulder layback -Shown in extended trot
The most famous movement picture that I have, which has appeared in several dog publications, is that of Ch Rowanglen's Enchantress who boasts a 42 degree shoulder. Her daughter, Ch Rowanglen's Barcelona, had a 43 degree shoulder but unfortunately I never was able to capture a suitable picture of this one. Both girls still play an important role in the pedigrees of current Rowanglen dogs. No, my goals have not changed over time.

What accomplishments in both your breeding program and in the show ring are you most proud of ?

Rowanglen is also known for producing producers. Many Rowanglen dogs have become fine foundations for other breeders, notably Lyricisle, Icewind, and Kincardine. Rowanglen dogs have also made significant contributions to the breeding programs of Delamantha, Westpointe, Sunbriar, Windgates, Crinan, Kildrummy, Forestoaks, Masterpiece, Sharls, and Azarel.

I am proud of the producing abilities of my dogs and the ROMC titles of these dogs in particular:

Ch. Rowanglen's Dearest Welcome CD ROMC who produced 6 champions, 3 of which are still found in pedigrees of dogs I have today.

- Dam of 6 champions
- My Foundation

Ch. Rowanglen's Gentility CD ROMC who finished with three 5-point wins.

- Dam of 11 champions
- Foundation of Kincardine

In obedience I am proud of:

Ch & OTCH Rowanglen's Jubilation, Am CD, TT, who became #2 all breed obedience titleholder in 1984, with several High in Trials. I'm also proud of her success in the conformation ring.

"Julie" loved jumping.
Picture taken before the official jump heights and distances were reduced.

Julie", the conformation dog

In conformation I am proud of:

Am/Can Ch Rowanglen Sir Lancelot who was 3rd top male sheltie in Canada in 2001. He is consistently producing some very sound puppies who are balanced with excellent movement and who have exquisite expressions.

- 40° shoulder layback

What aspect of being a dog breeder do you find most challenging and what do you find most rewarding ?

People can be the most challenging part of breeding and people are also the most rewarding aspect of this sport. Unfortunately when people put their egos above friendship they suffer a bad reputation in the long run. On the other hand any breeder friend becomes invaluable as a source of sharing the good and a support through the difficult times. Laughing and crying are very much part of this hobby.

Other challenges include money and time. It's not just the show entries that cost, but also the expenses involved in health testing, and the extra money you spend in making alterations to your home to accommodate the needs of a breeding program.

Up until last year I was also working full time. Although that supports the hobby, it does take away from time spent with the dogs.

Is there a particular sheltie that you feel is the closest to the "ideal" that you have ever seen ? ( Maybe give one that you bred and one that you didn't)

Am/Can Ch Delamantha's Desiderata and Am/Can Ch Rowanglen Sir Lancelot are two "ideal" shelties. "Desiderata" has already been mentioned above. Keeping my focus on her as a model helped me attain many of her virtues in Lance. Lance has a great front assembly including a 40 degree shoulder layback, great depth of chest, correctly sloping croup and low tailset, long stifle with short hocks, a very typey head, and a very easy going personality. Most importantly, he has a strong pedigree whose depth is supported by an exceptionally beautiful dam, Ch. Rowanglen's Gold Medallion, still here at Rowanglen at 15 3/4 years young.
Ch Rowanglen's Gold Medallion - Dam of "Lance" - Pictured as a young dog.

From what I know of your kennel, you are mainly a sable breeder. Have you in the past or do you have any plans to breed any of the other colours ?

My foundation bitch was a tri-factored sable. Colour wise I could have gone either way. My first generation pups were sables and tricolours. My pick pups at the time were sables, so I went with that colour, not because of the colour, but because they happened to have the characteristics I was looking for. I did produce one tricolour champion back then, but didn't keep that colour line because of the ever present space limitations of living in the big city.

Do you have any aspirations towards conformation judging ?

None at all. When one is faced with a choice to pursue something, then I wish to do it whole heartedly. Judging requires additional time and dedication to the dog fancy as a whole. I have a few other hobbies and interests that are part of my life. We all make choices for the directions we take.

Any advice for the novice just starting out in our breed ?

All three bits of advice relate to time and patience:

One: "Don't be an instant expert". Having a big ego does not equate with pride in what you've got. It means you are more concerned with your own image than that of your dogs or of the breed as a whole.

Two: Get to know what a good Sheltie is. Imprint the standard in your mind. Besides book knowledge, you need an artistic eye and be able to envision what you are aiming for. You have to see the whole picture, not just the parts. This takes time. You are a true breeder when your knowledge reaches an intuitive level.

Three: Spend time with your family and with your God. Keeping a universal perspective on the scheme of things will keep you whole. Excluding too many other aspects of life is not healthy. Too many dog people have suffered relationship problems and have lost both their families and their dogs in the process.

CLOSING COMMENTS:

Rowanglen is an example of a small breeding establishment that has had to survive the challenges of raising shelties in a large metropolitan city. Being forced to make selections under the municipal number limits has forced me to breed only my best. It removed the temptation to breed second and third best. It has also forced me to share my best, and many other kennels have had successful Rowanglen foundations because I was not able to keep them all. It has forced me to learn to make better puppy choices at a younger age. It has also forced me into a slower generation turnover, so that some of the old lines genes are still fairly close to the forefront. Anyone who wishes to reintroduce some qualities that seem to be lost to current day shelties will find a refreshing pocketful of virtues here. To get a further glimpse of Rowanglen Shelties and some pedigrees, I invite you to visit my website at www.netrover.com/~rowangln.

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